Breaking News – Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government
October 9, 2008This story has been building momentom for sometime now. Matt Drudge however is reporting the Washington Times is about to break this story wide open tomorrow. Matt’s tease:
WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq… Developing..
Ed Morrissey covered this story last month when it first happened, saying:
“Hoshyar Zebari didn’t hide behind a “high-level source in Baghdad” tag for this story. Zebari’s testimony puts the onus on Obama to explain why he attempted to interfere with the Bush administration’s negotiations despite his having absolutely no authority to do so. If Obama wants to negotiate a defeat for America, he needs to wait until Americans elect him to the White House before betraying our allies and our troops in the field.”
This could be a real bad for the Obama campaign…
New York Post – OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
UPDATE – Here is the Washington Times story…
Obama tried to sway Iraqis on Bush deal
In private conversations on troop presence, candidate pitched delayEXCLUSIVE:
At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn’t be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.
Mr. Obama’s conversations with the Iraqi leaders, confirmed to The Washington Times by his campaign aides, began just two weeks after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June and stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate’s contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war.
Some of the specifics of the conversations remain the subject of dispute. Iraqi leaders purported to The Times that Mr. Obama urged Baghdad to delay an agreement with Mr. Bush until next year when a new president will be in office – a charge the Democratic campaign denies.
Wow, Obama should resign and Joe Biden should take over.
This is creepy. I don’t trust this guy whatsoever, and if this is true, it is really bad news. I am glad that we are starting to see him for who he really is BEFORE he is elected into office. Thank you.
You make a HUGE assumption with your assertion that “this could be real bad for Obama.”
You actually seem to think that it will be reported by the mainstream Liberal media!
The media will try to cover this up! It is our responsibility as Americans to let people know before it is to late. Obama is potentially guilty of treason and sedition. Stop this radical from pulling the wool over peoples eyes.
Well it probably will not be reported by the MSM but then most people no longer believe what they hear in the MSM. In fact every day fewer people are bothering to even tune in. I get my info from reliable non MSM sources.
The problem with being decietful, is you forget what you lied about and when you lied about it and where you lied about it, and who you lied to about it…. Obama could have done himself a favor ond cleaned up his life before attempting to become the president. But oh no he just had to come in and try to claim the race card as his soul reason for being fit to run a country…. One of Obamas biggest he didn’t see a problem with the company he was keeping or he is so naive that he completly lacked the ability to for see the damage this could create an illusion that doesn’t represent him in the light he wants people to see him….
This BS. The MSM (even Fox) isn’t covering this story because it’s demonstrably untrue. Even the Bush government backs up Obama’s denial (http://mediamatters.org/items/200810080025?f=h_latest). So maybe all you no-nothings should actually check the facts on this before piling on the fake outrage.
It doesn’t help your cause to call people “no-nothings” and then spell it incorrectly.
I KNOW I’m right on that!
haha
Someone needs to send this to Fox news to Hannity he will investigate and put it on the air, this whole Obama situation is turning out to be like something from the Twilight Zone or the Outer Limits what is true and whats not, it is all pretty scary, god I hope he loses.
Hey Fried Wire, why don’t you get off of this website and go play with your little obambi friends, see if they can mix up some more koolaid for you, you spineless baby probably living in your mom’s basement.
“That’s not the Zebari I thought I knew.” Or SLT.
Hey Gazzed, why don’t you go get yourself a one-way ticket to Iran and go live somewhere where your kind of moronic hatred of dissent and love of intellectual vacuity is appreciated. Or, easier still, go yell “Obama’s a terrorist” at the next Bible Spice Nuremburg rally. (I can’t wait to hear your self-pitying whining come November 5th.)
Dear Fried Wire, I must of hit a little Obama chord with you, why don’t you go live in a place like the Wizard of Oz, I’m sure you can envision that in your little intellectual Obama enhanced mind and if you think I am a Nazi you are sadly mistaken, we don’t bring up Obama where I go to church, I don’t think the congregation would appreciate that very much, I can’t wait to hear your ego come crashing down when Obama loses on November 4th 2008, I am sure you will be pretty snarky and mean by November 5th and perhaps until Jan. 20th.
First off, I didn’t call you a Nazi. The Nazis had a clear strategy and a powerful intellectual component to their philosophy. You people are just as wrong, but without strategy or thought. McCain is desperate and headed for a landslide defeat. I’ll speak to you on November 5th.
Please do. Don’t runaway when That One™ loses..
I guess that’s the problem with you bewildered souls who need the stability of obedience and conformity in your lives… you think that because I believe McCain would be a bad prez, I’d automatically think Obama would be great. Not true. I wouldn’t weep bitter tears of disappointment if Obama lost, I’d just be scared to death for the future of this country if McCain won. Do you see the difference? Or do semantics blow your mind?
To… many… words…
Can’t… comprehend…
Jeff, how confident are you that Obama will lose?
Very confident.
How do you explain the fact that, currently, McCain is losing?
“Losing” !
HAHA
And how do you determine that? Polls?
Please. Only one poll counts and we won’t find out those results until November 4th.
So on what basis do you claim with confidence that Obama will lose? Was it a recent fortune cookie?
This is to Fried Wire, I am not a bewildered soul, I belong to the Puma group and a few others and we do have a strategy, it is to take Obama down little by little hopefully and get many, many, votes that won’t go to him and one other thing don’t believe the polls 98% of the Puma people and other groups are lying to pollsters, its a personal joke to all of us, or perhaps just a thought. Talk to you on November 5th.
PUMA, you people are insane. Why vote for a candidate who is so different from Clinton?
Obama screwed over Hillary, I would be pissed too if I was a Clinton voter.
To Spencer, Give me one good reason to vote for Obama and see if it will change my mind, I just think he is not telling the truth about many things, I WAS a democrat for 25 years voted faithfully at each election whether federal,state,local, etc., they are not the party I knew and cared about, the Clinton’s were the last high mark of that party, I don’t like the way Obama and his campaign treated Hillary and Bill and I am one of millions who did not forget and never will, to me Obama and his campaign are acting like a bunch of common thugs who think if you say anything about Obama your racist, if you disagree you need to get in line, and many other thing I have never seen in a presidential election before, it has honestly scared quite a few people, my husband works for a company that has the USW as their union, they have tried to shove the Obama crap down their throat so bad many of them are not voting for him just because of that, as my husband says the union should be worrying about their local people not trying to get Obama elected. I hope American wakes up. I almost forgot the line about McCain being the same as Bush we don’t believe it so they are wasting their time saying that.
Gazzed, you haven’t answered my question.
Why vote for a candidate who is so different (in terms of their stances on policy issues) from Clinton? Clinton is supporting Obama!
Gazzed,
True or false? Obama’s stance on the issues is closer to Clinton’s than McCain’s.
Here’s a good reason, Gazzed: When comparing Obama’s and McCain’s stance on the issues, the former is much closer Clinton’s stance than the latter. Not good enough?
Gazzed, you just blew any assumed credibility you might have had. I’d have way more respect for a dyed-in-the-wool conservative everyone-hater than yourself. What kind of unfathomable lack of mental acuity and surplus of spite does it take for someone to be a PUMA? You spent the first half of the primaries shaking your little fists and gloating about how tough the Clintons are (note: plural because even though Hillary is a paragon of feminist achievement, she still needs her hubby to back her up). Then as soon as Clinton implodes under the weight of her own lies and hypocrisy, and Obama wins fair and square, you all start whining about sexism and how you’re going to back McCain. You’d put the whole country through 4 years of misery and disaster under McCain just to avenge your candidate and give her a second chance? Or are you one of those dribbling morons who actually believe Palin is a good alternative to Hillary? I’ve scraped stuff off of my shoe with more intellect and honesty than you people.
All I can say is I hope you have large shoes because your going to have to do alot of scraping, and also that is your opinion if you think Obama won fair and square, but my opinion is he did not, and I don’t believe in Hillary’s case that it was about sexism, I think it was about a democratic party that went totally in the tank for Obama from the very start. I don’t think the country under McCain would be full of misery and disaster, but in my opinion and many other Puma’s we think under Obama it might be pretty bad, and no I don’t think Hillary would run in 4 years were not waiting for that and I don’t think many of us would vote her after all the sucking up to Obama, just shows you what those democrats are made up of, and I don’t dribble over Palin, I’m not like the Obama supporters many of whom need bibs or diapers on to control their bodily functions.
I know facts are awkward things that get in the way of opinions, but the fact is Obama did win fair and square. He was selected on the basis that the DNC was convinced he was the strongest candidate with the best chance of winning based on his appeal to voters and the party delegates.
I have lived through 7 years of Bush too and spent a lot of that time believing Clinton would make a great president to rescue the country from the mess it’s in. But when it came down to the primaries, she showed herself to be just another old-school hack who’d lie and do anything to get elected. That’s why she lost.
Another awkward fact is that doomed Clinton was her vote for the Iraq war. Whatever way you explain it – whether she was duped by Bush/Cheney (shows weak judgment), whether she just didn’t want to look bad if it had turned out a great success (shows cynical opportunism), whatever… – there was no way she could have won having backed that disaster.
And you don’t think the country would suffer under McPalin? Have you been to America lately??? I don’t know what kind of closeted, happy life you’re leading, but I’m glad for you. But we have two businesses going bust due to customers having no money, we have no healthcare for ourselves or our kid and we have a house about to be foreclosed on due to it being unsellable having lost 60% of its value. I can tell you things ain’t going great right now and voting for someone who represents more of the same would be tantamount to a suicide bid.
I do have a happy life I have been blessed with a great job after losing a good job after 21 years and the six months after that time were tough, but my husband has steady employment, I have a small business that I run, but it is only minimal because I haven’t tried harder to make it into a bigger business, I work at a hospital and have been there for 3 years, I actually just had my review and was totally surprised by the raise that I got, I knew I would get a pretty good raise but it exceeded my wildest dreams, I implemented a program back in August that had to do with patient safety and it was put into place at all of our healthcare facilities, so that is why I got exceptional for my review, I do feel bad that your business’s are doing bad and you have no healthcare, but I do not believe Obama is the answer, many people do and like I said that is their opinion, I don’t trust him and I never will and I am not alone, I don’t think Bush has done a good job and no I don’t believe war is the answer, but I look at it like we are there how do we get out with honor and dignity, if we just pull out Iraq may collapse and then there will be another major problem. Obama hasn’t shown me anything to make me believe him and as far as Hillary being old-school hack what about Biden, I have never cared much for him and probably never will.I also think Obama has weak judgement, especially with his past associations, I am from Pa. and alot of people didn’t like the remark about being bitter, holding onto their guns, and their faith, I do hold onto my faith because without that you have nothing as far as I am concerned, I live in the suburbs between Lancaster and Phila. not many people in my area are supporting Obama it is very conservative here so it had nothing to do with the primaries, it is a pretty quiet area, this is the area where Hillary did win in the primaries, that is why I don’t believe the polls all that much, I actually had a lady come to my house yesterday from the Obama campaign, and I told her I was not voting for him, she came because I am registed Democrat, but in the general election you can vote for either party, she was very nice, but she wasn’t very happy with me, but I told her nicely this is how I feel and I will not change my mind just my party. I hope you have luck with your business’s and your healthcare problems.
‘Ppreciate the candor and thanks for foregoing the abuse enough to sympathize. I do appreciate it.
To tell you the truth, I’m not 100% sold on Obama as I don’t trust anyone in DC. Like they say, if anyone actually WANTS to be a politician, they should automatically be disqualified. That’s the conundrum.
But I still think Obama is the best bet in an unpromising race. The stuff they’re throwing at him to make people not trust him has absolutely nothing to do with the issues, they’re all dumb character attacks and guilt by association. So what if he served on a housing panel with Bill Ayers? So did a lot of Republicans and the organization that invited Ayers was founded by a Reagan donor. And the bitter remark? Really, ain’t that true? I know people here (and I’m in snarky, God-ignoring California!) who hate politics, won’t vote and literally do cling to religion because they’ve almost given up on this world. And you know Obama’s not speaking as an atheist or whatever, so why should that (maybe poorly phrased) remark be judged so harshly? I think the whole point of the comment was about how politicians have failed the people. And ain’t that the truth???