Comments on: Breaking News – Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government

By: fried wire

fried wire — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:41:52 +0000

‘Ppreciate the candor and thanks for foregoing the abuse enough to sympathize. I do appreciate it.

To tell you the truth, I’m not 100% sold on Obama as I don’t trust anyone in DC. Like they say, if anyone actually WANTS to be a politician, they should automatically be disqualified. That’s the conundrum.

But I still think Obama is the best bet in an unpromising race. The stuff they’re throwing at him to make people not trust him has absolutely nothing to do with the issues, they’re all dumb character attacks and guilt by association. So what if he served on a housing panel with Bill Ayers? So did a lot of Republicans and the organization that invited Ayers was founded by a Reagan donor. And the bitter remark? Really, ain’t that true? I know people here (and I’m in snarky, God-ignoring California!) who hate politics, won’t vote and literally do cling to religion because they’ve almost given up on this world. And you know Obama’s not speaking as an atheist or whatever, so why should that (maybe poorly phrased) remark be judged so harshly? I think the whole point of the comment was about how politicians have failed the people. And ain’t that the truth???

By: Gazzed

Gazzed — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:21:13 +0000

I do have a happy life I have been blessed with a great job after losing a good job after 21 years and the six months after that time were tough, but my husband has steady employment, I have a small business that I run, but it is only minimal because I haven’t tried harder to make it into a bigger business, I work at a hospital and have been there for 3 years, I actually just had my review and was totally surprised by the raise that I got, I knew I would get a pretty good raise but it exceeded my wildest dreams, I implemented a program back in August that had to do with patient safety and it was put into place at all of our healthcare facilities, so that is why I got exceptional for my review, I do feel bad that your business’s are doing bad and you have no healthcare, but I do not believe Obama is the answer, many people do and like I said that is their opinion, I don’t trust him and I never will and I am not alone, I don’t think Bush has done a good job and no I don’t believe war is the answer, but I look at it like we are there how do we get out with honor and dignity, if we just pull out Iraq may collapse and then there will be another major problem. Obama hasn’t shown me anything to make me believe him and as far as Hillary being old-school hack what about Biden, I have never cared much for him and probably never will.I also think Obama has weak judgement, especially with his past associations, I am from Pa. and alot of people didn’t like the remark about being bitter, holding onto their guns, and their faith, I do hold onto my faith because without that you have nothing as far as I am concerned, I live in the suburbs between Lancaster and Phila. not many people in my area are supporting Obama it is very conservative here so it had nothing to do with the primaries, it is a pretty quiet area, this is the area where Hillary did win in the primaries, that is why I don’t believe the polls all that much, I actually had a lady come to my house yesterday from the Obama campaign, and I told her I was not voting for him, she came because I am registed Democrat, but in the general election you can vote for either party, she was very nice, but she wasn’t very happy with me, but I told her nicely this is how I feel and I will not change my mind just my party. I hope you have luck with your business’s and your healthcare problems.

By: Fried Wire

Fried Wire — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:04:09 +0000

I know facts are awkward things that get in the way of opinions, but the fact is Obama did win fair and square. He was selected on the basis that the DNC was convinced he was the strongest candidate with the best chance of winning based on his appeal to voters and the party delegates.

I have lived through 7 years of Bush too and spent a lot of that time believing Clinton would make a great president to rescue the country from the mess it’s in. But when it came down to the primaries, she showed herself to be just another old-school hack who’d lie and do anything to get elected. That’s why she lost.

Another awkward fact is that doomed Clinton was her vote for the Iraq war. Whatever way you explain it – whether she was duped by Bush/Cheney (shows weak judgment), whether she just didn’t want to look bad if it had turned out a great success (shows cynical opportunism), whatever… – there was no way she could have won having backed that disaster.

And you don’t think the country would suffer under McPalin? Have you been to America lately??? I don’t know what kind of closeted, happy life you’re leading, but I’m glad for you. But we have two businesses going bust due to customers having no money, we have no healthcare for ourselves or our kid and we have a house about to be foreclosed on due to it being unsellable having lost 60% of its value. I can tell you things ain’t going great right now and voting for someone who represents more of the same would be tantamount to a suicide bid.

By: Gazzed

Gazzed — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:02:06 +0000

All I can say is I hope you have large shoes because your going to have to do alot of scraping, and also that is your opinion if you think Obama won fair and square, but my opinion is he did not, and I don’t believe in Hillary’s case that it was about sexism, I think it was about a democratic party that went totally in the tank for Obama from the very start. I don’t think the country under McCain would be full of misery and disaster, but in my opinion and many other Puma’s we think under Obama it might be pretty bad, and no I don’t think Hillary would run in 4 years were not waiting for that and I don’t think many of us would vote her after all the sucking up to Obama, just shows you what those democrats are made up of, and I don’t dribble over Palin, I’m not like the Obama supporters many of whom need bibs or diapers on to control their bodily functions.

By: Fried Wire

Fried Wire — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:17:26 +0000

Gazzed, you just blew any assumed credibility you might have had. I’d have way more respect for a dyed-in-the-wool conservative everyone-hater than yourself. What kind of unfathomable lack of mental acuity and surplus of spite does it take for someone to be a PUMA? You spent the first half of the primaries shaking your little fists and gloating about how tough the Clintons are (note: plural because even though Hillary is a paragon of feminist achievement, she still needs her hubby to back her up). Then as soon as Clinton implodes under the weight of her own lies and hypocrisy, and Obama wins fair and square, you all start whining about sexism and how you’re going to back McCain. You’d put the whole country through 4 years of misery and disaster under McCain just to avenge your candidate and give her a second chance? Or are you one of those dribbling morons who actually believe Palin is a good alternative to Hillary? I’ve scraped stuff off of my shoe with more intellect and honesty than you people.

By: Spencer

Spencer — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:35:56 +0000

Here’s a good reason, Gazzed: When comparing Obama’s and McCain’s stance on the issues, the former is much closer Clinton’s stance than the latter. Not good enough?

By: Spencer

Spencer — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:03:09 +0000

Gazzed,

True or false? Obama’s stance on the issues is closer to Clinton’s than McCain’s.

By: Spencer

Spencer — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:01:59 +0000

Gazzed, you haven’t answered my question.

Why vote for a candidate who is so different (in terms of their stances on policy issues) from Clinton? Clinton is supporting Obama!

By: Gazzed

Gazzed — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:44:27 +0000

To Spencer, Give me one good reason to vote for Obama and see if it will change my mind, I just think he is not telling the truth about many things, I WAS a democrat for 25 years voted faithfully at each election whether federal,state,local, etc., they are not the party I knew and cared about, the Clinton’s were the last high mark of that party, I don’t like the way Obama and his campaign treated Hillary and Bill and I am one of millions who did not forget and never will, to me Obama and his campaign are acting like a bunch of common thugs who think if you say anything about Obama your racist, if you disagree you need to get in line, and many other thing I have never seen in a presidential election before, it has honestly scared quite a few people, my husband works for a company that has the USW as their union, they have tried to shove the Obama crap down their throat so bad many of them are not voting for him just because of that, as my husband says the union should be worrying about their local people not trying to get Obama elected. I hope American wakes up. I almost forgot the line about McCain being the same as Bush we don’t believe it so they are wasting their time saying that.

By: Jeff Lloyd

Jeff Lloyd — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:16:33 +0000

Obama screwed over Hillary, I would be pissed too if I was a Clinton voter.